May 22, 2010

  • “when man reaches the lowest depths of unbelief” (William Williams’ “The Experience Meeting”)

     
    This morning (and actually over the past several weeks now), I was struggling with what God was doing and I was struggling with persevering (e.g. – see also here, here, here, here and here.) Once again I began wondering if my time was done. I had no desire to write, no desire to do much of anything, for that matter. I had nothing more to give. I had nothing. I even got to the point where I considered shutting down my blogs and going into a hole somewhere. I wondered if God was done with me, for I do know it is true that He does have certain seasons of ministry for certain people. I had reached just about the lowest depths of unbelief…yet not too low to call out to Him once more:

    Are You not a fountain? (let a drop fall here for me)

    Are You not a fountain?
    my soul is thirsting
    panting
    yearning
    I’m dying
    You’ve promised
    living water
    (haven’t You?)
    where is that living water?
    where are You?
    I’ve got nothing to draw with
    I’ve got nothing
    asking You here for but a drop
    a single drop
    Are You not a fountain?
    Are You not my Father?
    Am I not Your child?
    be merciful to me
    for Jesus’ sake
    let a drop fall here for me
    a single drop
    You are my Father
    You Son opened the way into the holy of holies
    He told me to ask You for my daily bread
    Can I not also ask for my daily drink?
    be merciful to me
    for Jesus’ sake
    if You poured out His blood for me on Calvary
    will You not let a drop fall here for me today
    a single drop
    let a drop fall here for me
    do not forsake me, O my God
    Lead me to your living waters
    wipe away my thirst

    Are You not a fountain?
    my soul is weeping
    tossing
    churning
    I’m crying
    You’re promised
    still waters
    (haven’t You?)
    where are those still waters?
    where are You?
    I’ve got nothing to draw with
    I’ve got nothing
    asking You here for but a drop
    a single drop
    Are You not a fountain?
    Are You not my Father?
    Am I not Your child?
    be merciful to me
    for Jesus’ sake
    let a drop fall here for me
    a single drop
    You are my Father
    You Son opened the way into the holy of holies
    He told me to ask You for my daily bread
    Can I not also ask for my daily drink?
    be merciful to me
    for Jesus’ sake
    if You poured out His blood for me on Calvary
    will You not let a drop fall here for me today
    a single drop
    let a drop fall here for me
    do not forsake me, O my God
    Lead me to Your still waters
    wipe away my tears

    After that I tried (in vain) to take hold of His promises, to regain my footing, to recapture the vision. I finally laid my head down on the table and rested (fitfully).

    A while later I got out some lunch and pulled off the printer a couple articles I’d printed out last night from Reformation and Revival Fellowship, which I’d been intending to read for a few days now. The first article was “Revival in William Williams’ Time” by Eifion Evans, which included a short excerpt from William Williams’ book, “The Experience Meeting: An Introduction to the Welsh Societies of the Evangelical Awakening” which I first read last December and have been meaning to begin rereading…

    As soon as I started reading the article, I went back to the bedroom and snatched up my copy of Williams’ book and read the greater context of the excerpt:

        This is the way the Lord worked in that part of the world.  One time, there were just a few of us, professing believers, gathered together, cold and unbelievably dead, in a meeting which we called a special service, so discouraged as to doubt whether we should ever meet again, some who were usually absent from every meeting, some in a deadly apathy, with nothing to say of God nor of their own souls, some given over to the world and its cares, some backslidden completely from all the means of grace and the ordinances of the gospel, some given over to the flesh and its lusts, as in the days of Noah––seeking a wife, seeking a husband, marrying and giving in marriage––and I myself well nigh disheartened and thinking often of coming to live in warmer spiritual climes, and moving my tent from Ur of the Chaldees nearer to the borders of the Promised Land.  But, even though all things were as I have described them––the world, the flesh and Satan victorious––these special services were yet conducted in an incredibly lifeless manner. There was no encouragement for anyone to carry on the work, save only the promise of God, that wherever two or three coming together in His name, if their purpose were right, however lifeless their present state, He would come to them and bless them.  This alone had made us come together to pray; but our prayers were not much more than groans.

        But at last, forced by cowardice, unbelief and the onslaughts of Satan, we resolved to give up our special meeting: and now we were about to offer a final prayer, fully intending never again to meet thus in fellowship. But it is when man reaches the lowest depths of unbelief that God imparts faith, and when man has failed, then God reveals Himself.  So here, with us in such dire straits, on the brink of despair, with the door shut on every hope of success, God Himself entered into our midst, and the light of day from on high dawned upon us; for one of the brethren––yes, the most timid of us all, the one who was strongest in his belief that God would never visit us––  while in prayer, was stirred in his spirit and laid hold powerfully on heaven, as one who would never let go.  His tongue spoke unusual words, his voice was raised, his spirit was aflame, he pleaded, he cried to God, he struggled, he wrestled in earnest, like Jacob, in the agony of his soul.  The fire took hold of others––all were awakened, the coldest to the most heedless took hold and were warmed; into the battle, with him we laid hold upon God, His attributes, His Word and His promises, resolving that we would never let go on our hold until all our desire should be satisfied.

       And this came to pass, for there fell upon us the sweet breath of the love of the Lord.  We were filled as if with the fulness of the bowls and the horns of the altar––the fire was kindled and we gave voice with our tongues.  The cloud melted away, the sun shone, we drank of the fruit of the vines of the promised land, and we were made to rejoice.  Gone was unbelief––gone guilt––gone fear––gone a timid, cowardly spirit, lack of love, envy, suspicion, together with all the poisonous worms that tormented us before; and in their place came love, faith, hope, a joyful spirit, with a glorious multitude of the graces of the Holy Spirit.  Up till now the service was only beginning, for prayer, singing, praise and blessing were redoubled, and no one felt like bringing things to an end; and now some were weeping, some praising, some singing, some filled with heavenly laughter, and all full of wonder and love and amazement at the Lord’s work––to my mind like the time of the Apostles, when the Spirit descended from on high on a handful of fearful people, and strengthened them mightily to come out of their secret hiding place into the midst of the streets of Jerusalem, and to declare the Name of the Lord before every tribe, tongue and nation that had gathered together there, from the uttermost parts of the earth. As it was then, so it was here now.

        This sound went forth and was spread from parish to parish and from village to village, until innumerable people were carrying around the burning word–men and youths, women and children. Preachers, too, came to us from all parts, having heard at a distance rumours of these workings of God… (8-9)

    * * *

    cold and unbelievably dead…Yes, that’d be me.

    discouraged as to doubt whether we should ever meet againYes, that’d be me.

    in a deadly apathy, with nothing to say of God nor of their own soulsYes, that’d be me.

    I myself well nigh disheartenedYes, that’d be me.

    the onslaughts of SatanYes, that’d be me.

    poisonous worms that tormentedYes, that’d be me.

    the lowest depths of unbeliefYes, that’d be me.

    man has failedYes, that’d be me.

    about to offer a final prayerYes, that’d be me.

    in such dire straits, on the brink of despair, with the door shut on every hope of successYes, that’d be me.

    There was no encouragement for anyone to carry on the workYes, that’d be me.

    I will say that I’ve known these things in great and greater measure over the past several weeks. I’m not exaggerating this.

    Doubt after doubt has piled up upon me, much like shovelful upon shovelful of dirt being tossed upon a dead body lying motionless and breathless in a closed casket. Shut in, with no hope of escape. No light. No oxygen. No nothing. Nothing.

    Now and again there would be a little glimmer of sunshine. A gasp of wind. A short reprieve.

    But then another shovelful of dirt would come.

    And then the darkness was darker. The deadness was deader.

    And another shovelful.

    Even worse.

    And so on.

    This downward spiral has continued for some time now. Then this morning another shovelful of dirt fell upon me in that casket. I was all but resolved to give up. I wondered if I was supposed to. The dreams – gone. The vision – gone. The hope – gone. The desire – gone. The interest – gone. The faith – gone. The joy – gone. I will say that nothing in particular happened to precipitate this. In fact, I had a wonderful unexpected word of encouragement via a phone call last night.

    What I do know is that a cloud has been descending for some time now and earlier today had firmly planted itself … but this was not the heaven-sent bright cloud of Shekinah glory cloud – but rather a dark cloud of doom and despair, which was earthly, sensual and demonic. (And I will say I know a couple of you have spoken to me of similar experiences as well.)

    But it is when man reaches the lowest depths of unbelief that God imparts faith, and when man has failed, then God reveals Himself.  So here, with us in such dire straits, on the brink of despair, with the door shut on every hope of success, God Himself entered into our midst, and the light of day from on high dawned upon us…

    In the lowest depths of my unbelief . . .

    God imparted faith…
    God revealed Himself…
    God Himself entered into my midst, and the light of day from on high dawned upon me…

    God answered my desperate prayer. He sweetly sent a drop for me today from that fountain…

    That entrance, that drop was in the form of that article which led me to pick up and read Williams’ words and see once again the glorious possibilities God has for us as His children if we persevere in meeting together and seeking His face together.

    Isaiah 30
    18  Therefore the LORD waits to be gracious to you,
    and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you.
    For the LORD is a God of justice;
    blessed are all those who wait for him.

    19  For a people shall dwell in Zion, in Jerusalem; you shall weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the sound of your cry. As soon as he hears it, he answers you. 20  And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, yet your Teacher will not hide himself anymore, but your eyes shall see your Teacher. 21  And your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, “This is the way, walk in it,” when you turn to the right or when you turn to the left. 22  Then you will defile your carved idols overlaid with silver and your gold-plated metal images. You will scatter them as unclean things. You will say to them, “Be gone!”

    23  And he will give rain for the seed with which you sow the ground, and bread, the produce of the ground, which will be rich and plenteous. In that day your livestock will graze in large pastures, 24  and the oxen and the donkeys that work the ground will eat seasoned fodder, which has been winnowed with shovel and fork. 25  And on every lofty mountain and every high hill there will be brooks running with water, in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. 26  Moreover, the light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day when the LORD binds up the brokenness of his people, and heals the wounds inflicted by his blow.

    We have got to hold onto the Lord and His promises to us no matter what, no matter how we might feel, no matter what we might see – for we know our Lord never fails to be gracious and merciful to His people:

    18  Therefore the LORD waits to be gracious to you,
    and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you.
    For the LORD is a God of justice;
    blessed are all those who wait for him.

    19  For a people shall dwell in Zion, in Jerusalem; you shall weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the sound of your cry. As soon as he hears it, he answers you.

    He waits to be gracious.
    He exalts Himself to show mercy to us.
    He is a God of justice.
    We are blessed as we wait for Him.
    We shall weep no more.
    He will surely be gracious to us at the sound of our cry.
    As soon as we cry, He answers us.

    As soon as we cry, He answers us…

    Yet the answer comes in His time. God’s purpose in waiting is that He might be highly exalted. His answers to our cries are divinely timed and orchestrated for His glory to be displayed in the greatest way possible.

    So though the Lord will give us the bread of adversity and the water of affliction for a time . . .

    . . . in His time He will give rain for the seed with which we sow the ground, and bread, the produce of the ground, which will be rich and plenteous, etc.

    May God give us sufficient grace to wait on Him as He waits to be gracious to us. May He strengthen our grip so we might grab hold of Him and His promises and keep holding on to the hem of His garment. May He strengthen our arms to wrestle with Him until He blesses us. May He open our mouths so we might not keep silent and we might take no rest nor give Him rest. That . . .

    we would never let go on our hold until all our desire should be satisfied...

    Isaiah 62

    1  For Zion’s sake I will not keep silent,
    and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not be quiet,
    until her righteousness goes forth as brightness,
    and her salvation as a burning torch…

    6  On your walls, O Jerusalem,
    I have set watchmen;
    all the day and all the night
    they shall never be silent.
    You who put the LORD in remembrance,
    take no rest,
    7  and give him no rest
    until he establishes Jerusalem
    and makes it a praise in the earth.

    (I’d encourage you to read the whole chapter.)

    If God has set us as watchmen – to speak to the Lord on behalf of His Church and for the Lord to speak to His Church – we can trust He will work in us to will and to do of His good pleasure and keep us persevering in that work.

    One reason I began this blog was because I could see the vital need for us to come together to support one another (please see here and here for more of my thoughts on that). We have got to keep meeting together and holding one another up in prayer as well as praying God would lead us to others locally who are also burdened for the Church – because during those times when even all of us are cold and even all of us are a faint flicker, we can trust that God will rend the heavens and rain down fire to inflame the spirit of one of us so the fire might be kindled, take hold of us and warm the rest of us . . . and then warm others besides us:

    while in prayer, was stirred in his spirit and laid hold powerfully on heaven, as one who would never let go.  His tongue spoke unusual words, his voice was raised, his spirit was aflame, he pleaded, he cried to God, he struggled, he wrestled in earnest, like Jacob, in the agony of his soul.  The fire took hold of others––all were awakened, the coldest to the most heedless took hold and were warmed; into the battle, with him we laid hold upon God, His attributes, His Word and His promises, resolving that we would never let go on our hold until all our desire should be satisfied...

    the fire was kindled…The cloud melted away, the sun shone, we drank of the fruit of the vines of the promised land, and we were made to rejoice.

    This sound went forth and was spread from parish to parish and from village to village, until innumerable people were carrying around the burning word–men and youths, women and children. Preachers, too, came to us from all parts, having heard at a distance rumours of these workings of God…

    Ecclesiastes 4:9  Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. 10  For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! 11  Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? 12  And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him—a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

    I will leave you with a final quote from Williams regarding the formation of such groups of believers to encourage, strengthen and support one another:

    A hundred to one against Satan leaving such a flock of sheep in peace without causing some havoc among them––at least tempting them, troubling them and oppressing them, or drawing them into some false pleasure. (11)

    Anytime the people of God gather together in His Name for His glory, to be about His business, to contend for the Gospel, the lion is sure to be prowling and seeking an opportune time to harass, taunt, weaken, discourage and divide the flock. Let’s not forsake the assembling together, my brothers and sisters. I thank you for allowing me to share my blessings and burdens with you. I thank you for your prayers for me. I would be privileged to do the same for you.

    Yours in Christ, contending with You for the Gospel, seeking His face for revival,
    Romans 11:36,
    Karen

Comments (9)

  • Karen, thank you for sharing all this including your struggle. Since I stumbled into Xanga earlier this year I can honestly say that, among those I’ve read, your blog has been the most challenging, the most full of exhortation and a Spirit of truth & unity. It’s not false humility to say that my own efforts to “be a Christian” on Xanga have been rather poor… I can’t say I’ve been led by God or inspired by Him in anything I’ve written. Mostly just writing my own opinions or arguing over ideas. But yours is different in a good way; an excellent way. I hope you do continue because there would be a big void here without you. “Father, I pray in Jesus’ Name that You will continue to supply not only drops, but cups and buckets full of living, refreshing water to Karen’s soul, renewing her heart and mind and vision for Your purpose and glory. Amen.”

    Don    

  • I beg of you….all of you, including myself,  let us not allow even the slightest hint that we will abdicate our calling  in Christ as His bondservants and proclaimers of His glorious gospel ever  to cause the heart of a weaker brother to faint.  I was struck by Peter’s charge here in stirring up the confidence that we have knowing that Christ will cause us to bear fruit and multiply.  I am also a bondservant of  Christ, as are you all….no apostle am I, but a bondservant to the end.   Sometimes, we may think our end is coming, but that is the Lord’s business.  I know that I have been exercised to think of my decease lately – almost wistfully.  God has not given me license to call it quits, and I daresay it’s the same for all of you.  Let’s conduct our Lord’s business with honor. He is worthy of all Honor and Glory, Dominion, and Power for ever and evermore.

    Lord Jesus,  I confess that I am weak, but also confess that it is only by Your Might and Authority that I even dare to say Your Name.  Yet You have called me to open my mouth and utter the words that You have given me for as long as I have breath – to proclaim your death and resurrection for sinful man until You return.  You have seen us all falter at times and even our hearts fail us for fear.  I ask You, Dear Lord Jesus, to build us up in Your Holy Faith until no foe, no discouragement, no obstacle, nothing daunts us.  Draw us very near to You.  Let us know Your presence with us.  Remind us that You are the Victor and that we are MORE than conquerors through You whose love is steadfast and without shadow of turning.  If I were to be that stumbling block, then please remove me at once for the sake of the gospel and for those You have called.  In Your Holy Name I pray.  Amen.

    2 Peter 1
     1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ,

    To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

    2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
      
    5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

    10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
     
    12 For this reason I will not be negligent to remind you always of these things, though you know and are established in the present truth. 13 Yes, I think it is right, as long as I am in this tent, to stir you up by reminding you, 14 knowing that shortly I must put off my tent, just as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me. 15 Moreover I will be careful to ensure that you always have a reminder of these things after my decease.

  • Karen, Your honesty always heartens me. I also have times when I feel so down I don’t know how to climb back up, and sometimes I feel like God is far, far away.  Lately I have seen too much in the media that is so distressing, I need some of that living water too. “We have got to hold onto the Lord and His promises to us no matter what, no matter how we might feel, no matter what we might see – for we know our Lord never fails to be gracious and merciful to His people”  This quote from your post reminds me what we have been promised. I will eventually get more of that living water-in God’s time. Thanks for all the posts and for being in touch with your feelings and sharing. Love from your sister in Christ.

  • @CitizenDon - Don, thanks so much for your encouraging words and your prayer! God has definitely been answering that prayer.

    I have also appreciated your presence on Xanga. It surprises me for you to admit you’ve not been led of God or inspired in what you’ve written (thanks for your honesty), since I have been encouraged by much of it. I especially value the way you meld doctrine + experience/head & heart. That’s something which is sorely lacking in much of Christianity today.

    Re: our blogging & commenting here – we certainly need to be discerning, to use our time wisely based on the gifts, passions & calling God has given each one of us. Regardless, as those who’ve been entrusted w/ the Gospel, we’re to proclaim the Gospel b/c we have the authority from God to do so, yet we can too easily get sidetracked by issues that are not central to the faith. For a while after Revelife started up, I found myself over there pretty regularly, and it sucked up a lot of time and energy, in arguments and the like, but now I rarely comment over there at all (I don’t even read all the posts there anymore, though skim many of them). I continue to pray about Revelife since potentially it could have a big impact, plus I do know I’ve met some like-minded believers there like you.

    I have been & will be praying for your ministry here.
    I Corinthians 16:13-14.
    Christ’s blessings,
    Karen

  • @quest4god@revelife - Norm, thanks so much for your words here, your prayers and your continuing concern and fellowship. I knew I wasn’t giving up, but I was definitely tempted, I was very low, plus I was very confused and uncertain (things I really can’t quite put into words), yet in all that I was still seeking God, albeit very weakly.

    I love that II Peter passage (and ones like it) b/c it reminds us that we will be tempted to feel that way. Peter was feeding & tending the lambs/the sheep (John 21) by reminding them to be diligent b/c they needed that reminder…they were in danger of not pressing on. We have to remember that it’s not a sin to be tempted in such a way, but it is a sin to succumb to the temptation and to give up and stop running the race. It is a sin for us to turn away from God and not to keep turning to Him for our food and drink. In spite of how I felt, I still knew deep down that God was there. I knew He would provide the drop, so I was asking Him, but I wasn’t sure when or how He would do so. He truly surprised me at how quickly and unexpectedly that drop came to me. Manifold mercies!

    Psalm 145:4  The LORD upholdeth all that fall, and raiseth up all those that be bowed down. 15  The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season. 16  Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing. 17  The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. 18  The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. 19  He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. 20  The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. 21  My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.

    Praising God He never fails to help us STAY STRONG!
    Your sister in Christ,
    Karen

  • @kjlindgren - Kelly, thank you! Your words really encouraged me. It was hard to write all this since it’s definitely hard to put many of these things into words, but decided I needed to do so. (I wrote more about that here, as I mentioned to you earlier today.)

    You wrote:

    I will eventually get more of that living water-in God’s time.

    Yes! That’s exactly what we have to remember. That’s what the walk of faith is about. God is our loving Father and we can be sure He will provide for us all we need in His time.

    Psalm 84:11  For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly. 12  O LORD of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee.

    Love in Christ,
    Karen

  • @deerlife - Karen,  I am so thrilled at what has happened here in the past few days.  God is very present here and active in our lives… This is His ministry, and He has seen fit to bless us as we yield to Him.  Just the comments here alone are enough to make us shout, Glory Hallelujah to the Lamb of God!  Our hearts have been encouraged and we have been knitted together in His Gospel of Love.  Amen!

  • Amen! These kinds of discussions are vital to living our Christian lives the way we should.

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